Re: The (W)hole Problem and Calabi Yau Spaces?

Posted by moorglade on June 07, 2003 at 15:04:54:

In Reply to: The (W)hole Problem and Calabi Yau Spaces? posted by sol on June 07, 2003 at 11:53:04:

Sol you excel again! I had my cousin over last night, so I had to entertain him! He wanted to watch the Matrix film (video)and after the film, as is always the case questions flow and one question leads to another. After a number of questions relating to geometry, we ended up talking about my Favorite subject Einstein!

Ok, Ill leave out a lot of the early talk, but My Cousin was trying to visulize the Fifth Dimension!, he had seen another film some years ago, and was trying to connect the 5D, to the concept of 'hidden dimensions'.

Now as is always the case, my cousin tries to come up with his own Questions, some go quite deep, and we end up in all manner of 'situations' cause and effect.

But eventually, I started to ask my cousin some simple questions, and he gives me his ssimple answers, his concept of Time and space is very limited, he knows what day it is, and see's no use of a further understanding of any other notion of time! Now I tried to show my Cousin how the basis of Geometric quantities are the foundation of every concievable number of dimensions.

Your enquiries into the 'POINT', was instrumental in my explination, and it goes like this: I asked my cousin for a defination and example of any 3dimensional object in my living room, he glances around and points to the POST-IT NOTES and CUBE that contains them on my Computer desk(actually I asked for a geometric shape, and would have choosed this obvious CUBE/SHAPE myself!).

So I place the Cube(container with square post-it notes inside), onto the floor, and ask him what the cube(3D object is made up from), he found the question a bit bewildering, so I take out all the post-it notes, and place them on the floor, forming a Cube made from the 'post-it notes' . I take a single sheet and explain that the 3D cube is made from individual 2-dimensional sheets of post-it notes,placing one on top of another will re-create the CUBE in its identical form.

I now ask what is the 2-dimensional paper sheets made from?, what geometric dimensional source is its structure?now this really phased my cousin, and after sometime he concludes that the qustion was unanswerable! But I now give him one post-it note and asks him to examine it, giving him the clue that the 3D is made from 2Dimensional structures,,he then states, the 2D paper is made from 1Dimensional structure! Great I say, then asks him to describe this 1 dimensional structure?

Needless to say he found it hard, but asserted it must be 'there' somewhere! so I show him how to define the 1dimesional lines that make up the 2Dimensional paper, by holding it in front of his eyes at an angle where he can only 'see'one edge, this is the 'line' that is the basis for all of the post-it notes structure, and to confirm this I ask him to cut along the post-it note edge, trying to remove the smallest/minutest 'line' from the note.

The next question, obvious to my cousin by now, as he is hlding the finest 'thread/strand' of paper, representing a 1Dimensional structure, I ask what is the 1dimesional 'line' made from? ;) This was like my cousin was about to unravel the mysterious hidden dimension! I left him for a while to ponder as to the dimensional geometric structure.

He thought it must be constructed of 'HALF'S' as to the logic reasonning led him to conclude it so, he followed that 3Dimensions are constructed from 2Dimensions, 2Dimensions are constructed from 1Dimensions?..so, as he could not imagine ZERO dimensions, he reasoned that there must be Halves!( Im not going to tell you about how Half-life decay, is the intermediate dimensional quantity of inter-dimensional products!)

This is where the 'POINT' becomes evident, I now ask him to use a sciccors and to cut across the line in such a way as to release a part of the line that is ZERO? a zero-point, the smallest dimensional singular space structure!

Now, the question came my way directed from my cousin,He askes me to explain how can something be made from zero-dimensions? So loving every moment of this I say, lets go back to our original cube, the 3dimensional object and lets explore the next ,higher dimension the 4th Dimension?

The cube is there on the floor, we are sitting in my livingroom, and I ask my cousin to explore the cube and, using the deductive process we were using previous, to deduce where the 4th dimension was?

My Cousin was deep in thought as to trying to understand, where the 4th dimension was?,so I ask him what do you think the 4th Dimension was made out from/of? after a while he replied the Living room! In a sense, he was correct, the Box/cube RELATIVE to the Living room, was residing in the 4th dimension! But I explained in terms that was much simpler.

The 3Dimensional cube shares the space in my living room with other 3dimensional objects, such as my cousin and myself, between every 3dimensional object residing in my living room, there is distance, this domain is Spacetime, it is the 4th dimension. Not only do 3dimensional objects need distance, it is paramount for movement, to move around any 3dimensional object you need Time, if there was no distance, you could not define a 3dimensional object? (examine any 3dimensional object, you can only see a limit of said object at one one time, from any one vantage point).

So the conclusion is that the 4th dimension is made from all 3dimensional objects, and all objects have distance(points) between them, in a defined SPACETIME.

Now, I revert back to the zero-dimensional points, that elude our perception, for any 1Dimensional 'object' it is made from energy, it is this energy that communicates where in spacetime things are, for a photon it is constructed such that upon certain rotations of spin, you can define it is made from 'two-halfs', a Electro-Magnetic parity, of certain lengths, in terms of waves and moments.

The shortest 'electro', length equals the 'shortest',magnetic moment, it is the photon that ends up as the part of the 1dimensional line we cut with our scissors, a photon cannot be 'cut' any more, taker away one part of its consistuents, say its moment, then it is no longer a photon.

The photon has spin one, photons are bosons, and behave according to BOSE-EINSTEIN stats, they are inter-dimensional constructs, and are exempt from the Pauli exclusion principle! They can go through to any Dimension, and because of their 'zero' quantity, can travel through 2-dimensional, 3-dimensional objects! (which they do all the time, absorbtion).

Gravitons are the other end of, spin one photons, they are not contained within spacetime, but are the next 'higher' dimensional quantity, extro-galactic. They wrap around a galaxy, they are the basis of why spacetime only exists in Galaxies, once a spin one photon leaves our Galaxy, they are converted into EM spin2 waves, residing in 5-Dimensional space.

Its natural that all spacetimes(4d) exist within a substance that is made from an energy that is spin 2, and of a 'higher' construct!

Point zero dimensional ()>=spin 1 >>1-dimensional spin= 1/2>>2-dimensional=spin 1/2 1/3 5/2.... >>3dimensional quantities have numerous distances, spin can be associated with the dimensionality of the energy being observed, resulting in spacetime '-distance-decays' or Half-Lifes.

Sol sorry to make this a long winded post, but the Graviton now becomes relavant to the (hands around the Galaxy), the spin 2 mode?..not internal, but external! The post that you gave above, where the 'wave' is scooped out of the hole/brane? held firm and tight and eternal.

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