Re: consciousness and carbon and ice-cream

Posted by pelastration on September 17, 2003 at 16:31:14:

In Reply to: Re: consciousness and carbon and ice-cream posted by lanecove on September 17, 2003 at 14:09:26:

Lanecove,

You can produce all the observed physical and chemical properties of
carbon (and oxygen, nitrogen, etc) that we describe in Chemistry with
holon couplings.
Every particle, every atom, ... is considered to be - on it's level - a holon. A
atom-holon is thus the coupling of previous particle-holons.
For example an entering electron-holon is considered a new embedding
holon. It leaves the host-holon (atom) back when the unbalance it creates
inside the atom-holon is not longer admitted ... and we see that it is
emitted back out. On entering that electron-holon changes the total atom-
oscillation. But each other sub-holon inside the atom-holon (quark-
holons, gluons-holons, electron-holons, ...) still oscillates within it's
specific historical range of vibrations.

Of course we have - next to the pure underlying holons - also to add or
include intervening exogenous holons (i.e. thermodynamic oscillations
from a heating device) if these are needed for our target carbon
combination.

This approach is thus different in the mechanical view, but not in the
effect/result.
What we have observed in chemistry stays valid but the coupling system is
- in stead of 'magic' fields - based on layered membranes/spacetime.

Ask yourself: what's the engineering picture behind a 'field'?
Cosmology, Chemistry and QM use definitions like "Force", Motion,
Emission, Jump, field, wave, bonding, Cohesion, gravity, magnetism ... to
DESCRIBE these events (mostly) mathematically, based on observation and
calculate them. That's very good, but that's a measuring approach. From
one measuring definition other measuring definitions are created.

It's like saying: there is a space of water (of XYZ-size)(a lake), around that
space there are higher area's  (average height: B)(hills) and in the lake there
is a box (of xyz-size) (a boat) on location PQ and when the sun comes up
at time D and the surround temperature is T the boat will move in a zigzag
direction from PQ to FZ due to the attraction flux from the mass of the
hills. When you make 1000 observations you will find for sure a lot of
significant patterns and calculate the definite correlation on certain levels.
Once you know however that the mechanism is a SAIL powered by WIND
everything becomes clear.

Dirk

PS. any comments on 3 and 4?

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